卖国卖的太出圈了:谈欧洲金融危机

作者:weileguojia  于 2011-10-30 22:37 发表于 最热闹的华人社交网络--贝壳村

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卖国卖的太出圈了:谈欧洲金融危机
In most countries the year only has 12 months. Not so in Greece. Greek government employees receive a 13th and 14th month salary. Such hand outs are now on the table to reduce the Greek budget deficit. But that's not popular. May 5th will see the closure of all shops and businesses in Greece to protest the austerity measures -- even the Journalists will be on strike...
If you don't get the 13th and 14th month salary from the government, its seems popular to simply take it. Time Magazine reports
In Greece, doctors, lawyers, accountants and other self-employed professionals are among the worst offenders, says Georgakopoulos, the tax head. To prove the point, the ministry released tax information last November about doctors in the wealthy Athens neighborhood of Kolonaki, where the streets are lined with shops selling brands like Prada and Louis Vuitton. Nearly a third of registered doctors there declared annual incomes of less than $22,000. In all of Greece — a country of 11 million people — only 3,125 people declared incomes more than $280,000. "Everyone who can avoid paying taxes does," says Georgakopoulos. "The only ones who don't are the ones who can't — wage earners and pensioners whose incomes are taxed at source." Widespread evasion feeds the Greek attitude that only the stupid pay taxes. Little wonder that Greece's tax revenue is among the lowest in the European Union, 19.8% of GDP (excluding social security) compared to an E.U. average of 26.1%. (Italy's take is 29.1%, Portugal's 24.5%, Spain's 20.7%). Only a handful of E.U. countries — the Czech Republic, Slovakia and Romania — do worse. And none of them use the euro.

在大多数国家,一年只有12个月希腊并非如此希腊政府雇员收到的1314个月薪金这种现在在桌子上,以减少希腊财政赤字但是,这并不流行 5月5日在希腊所有商店和企业倒闭,抗议紧缩措施 - 甚至记者罢工...
如果不从政府那里得到第13和第14个月的工资,它似乎流行简单地采取 “时代”杂志报告

在希腊,医生,律师,会计师其他自雇专业人士之间最严重的罪犯Georgakopoulos税务为了证明这一点去年11左右在富裕雅典的KolonakiPrada和Louis Vuitton品牌的店铺林立,街道居委会医生公布税务信息将近三分之一注册医生宣布年收入少于$ 22,000在希腊 - 11亿人国家 - 只有3125申报收入超过280,000元 每个人避免交税说:”Georgakopoulos 谁不唯一谁也不能 -”打工仔“养老金领取者收入从源头征税广泛的逃税饲料希腊态度只有愚蠢纳税难怪在欧盟最低希腊的税收收入占国内生产总值的19.8不包括社会保障)相比,欧盟平均26.1% 意大利采取的是29.1%,葡萄牙24.5%西班牙20.7%只有少数E.U.国家 - 捷克共和国,斯洛伐克和罗马尼亚 - 更糟其中没有使用欧元
世界上哪个城市均居全球人均拥有保时捷Cayennes列表可以说是100,000欧元问题,起拍价保时捷昂贵的SUV
伦敦,纽约拉里萨不要笑,但正确的答案是第三
拉里萨其中大约25万居民塞萨利希腊中部农业地区资本

几年来,希腊拥保时捷Cayennes的个口超过了年申报收入过50000欧元人口。

苍蝇不叮无缝的蛋。
希腊腐败丛生,政治邪恶懒惰, 才咬上高盛的饵食。
年利率高达92%, 希腊的债5千亿美元中4千亿是利息,
中国ZF也要咬上高盛的饵食? 
卖国卖的太出圈了!

高盛这样的贼用印的钞票(如果大家还记得fed给高盛的赎金)把持了欧洲债务,
世界经济中奴隶级的中国,你去替人还哪门子债?凭什么?
高盛他们自己都不担心拿不到钱,不愿意剪发21%(今年7月的事)为什么?
1。本钱小,利息大,早已收回本钱,就算DEFAULT也不会伤及自身
2。一旦DEFAULT,欧元就完蛋,美元就消灭了唯一的对手, 完成历史一页,
3。不管利息如何荒谬,不愿意看到经济危机的懦夫和白痴们都会出钱!让他们大赚一笔!
赢,赢,赢!无论如何都是赢!
这里的第三选项里,不排除内奸已经知会他们,SB中国政府会拿中国人的肉喂这些外国虎狼。

现在欧盟要求的并不是各国出钱,而是要求高盛等债主剪发50%,以得到偿付的保证。
为什么到中国“叫兽”嘴里就变成了“各国出钱”?
叫兽加顾问这样的姿态于事何宜?等于安慰老虎,别担心,我拿中国来喂你。
这岂不正中人家消弱中国金融能力的圈套!
为什么一定要以直接消弱中国为结果?
历史罪人们,请回答!

欧洲是中国的血汗市场又如何?可以象FED一样印钞就是了,
至少可以拿空客,黄金储备来出卖(中国不是在没有任何危机的时候就把国家企业黄金都卖光了么?)
希腊出卖国有资产时,SB国家可曾被允许参与?
一个1千1百万人口的国家,背了5000亿美元的外债,其中3000亿归私有银行,2000亿归金融机构(包括IMF)。
每人负债5万美元!!!!!!
一边是一个极端贪腐的国家,另一边是一群极端贪婪的私人银行,还不起债就让他门一起破产吧,也给那些下套的债主一个教训,
这才是天道!
( 据FITCH欧元区债务直接接触美国大银行摩根大通公司NYSE/摩根,美国银行高盛集团公司纽约证券交易所/ GS富国银行公司(纽约证券交易所/WFC)和摩根士丹利(纽约证券交易所/ MS500.0亿美元。)

人家下地狱,SBZF也要国人陪葬?SB政府要救中山狼,拿你们家小的私产去救吧。拿人民的血汗去救,你们会像救狼那书呆子一样不得好死!
中国ZF已经向IMF贡献了1500亿。这笔钱是IMF唯一可用于救欧元和希腊的来源 (详见下面英文部分)。
卖国政府已经在曲线卖国了!!!
作为一个中国人,天天看卖国贼们拿天文数字的人民利益到处喂狗,不知如何是好。
上帝如果尚爱中国人就让这样的SBZF从地球上消失,越快越好。 也请给我能力,帮助人民!

希腊极端的贪腐到了穷途末路, 债主极端贪婪咬死不放。

因为债主早已毫无风险,赌徒也不怕风险。
当前,全球已经建立起了以金融资本游戏规则制定为主导的全球化体系,金融资本下的全球化形成了超主权的影子内阁和影子政府,他们并不完全代表国家利益,而是代表本阶层的利益。谁是欧洲的真正主人?

  谁才是欧洲真正的主人?近日,德国议会比爱尔兰议会提前得到爱尔兰预算报告激怒爱尔兰人,爱尔兰媒体甚至以“德国是我们新的主人”为题表示不满;而英国《独立报》更爆出惊人之语:“整个欧元区成了一个高盛集团的项目。当一般人还在烦恼紧缩和就业的时候,高盛系已经在欧元区的权力层进行一场天翻地覆的变革,难道高盛成了欧洲的新主人?”

  事实上,两个多月以来,欧债危机愈演愈烈并引发欧洲政坛持续动荡,希腊、意大利政坛相继变天。无独有偶,这两国新总理都曾与高盛有联系,高盛在金融业的影响力也正由美国伸展至欧洲。比如,已故的前欧盟竞争委员会委员、比利时人KarealvanMiert;曾帮助创立欧元的前欧洲央行与德国央行管理层成员、德国人OtmarIseing;前意大利央行行长、新任欧洲央行行长、意大利人德拉吉;意大利新任总理蒙蒂;希腊新任总理帕帕季莫斯等,这些身居要位的欧洲人,要么担任过高盛的投资顾问,要么担任过高盛的国际董事总经理。我们就来看看刚刚走马上任的欧洲三位要帅:德拉吉、蒙蒂和帕帕季莫斯,他们在欧债危机和高盛之间无一例外都有着很深的渊源。

  德拉吉在2002年~2005年是负责欧洲事务的高盛副总裁。作为高盛股东,他负责“企业和主权国家”。以这个身份,他的任务之一是销售可以掩饰一部分主权债务的金融产品“CDS(信用违约掉期合约)”,正是这个产品掩饰了希腊债务。再看蒙蒂,他自2005年以来是高盛的一位国际顾问。希腊新总理帕帕季莫斯,曾在1994年~2002年担任希腊中央银行行长,他以这个身份,参与了高盛炮制的债务作假行动。而且希腊债务的管理者皮特罗斯·克里斯托都罗斯,是高盛的一位前操盘手。造成危机者正主导解决危机

  当年为了加入欧元区,高盛即为希腊量身定做出一套“货币掉期交易”方式,为其掩盖了一笔高达10亿欧元的公共债务,以符合欧元区成员国的标准。不过掩盖的债务依然存在,为了掩饰债务希腊不得不制造更多的货币掉期交易,这也进一步加重了希腊的债务负担,使希腊深陷坏账漩涡而无法自拔,直至酿成债务危机。

  而高盛则让旗下基金一边做空债务抵押债券,一边收购廉价的CDS——一旦市场反转,债务抵押债券价格大幅下跌,CDS价格则会大幅上升,从而获取暴利。CDS是目前全球交易最为广泛的场外信用衍生品,这个市场在1997年还只有1800亿美元规模,但是到2008年,全球CDS信用违约掉期市场交易已经达到62万亿美元。据衍生品交易机构ISBA统计,仅美国市场上CDS名义交易量就已经高达15.5万亿美元之巨。如果按实际交易仅占名义交量额1%估计,实际交易额也高达1550亿美元左右。高盛正是通过不断地制造风险,再通过风险转嫁获得巨额套利。

  现在,造成金融危机的金融资本权力居然正成为解决危机的主导力量,欧洲经济及政治权力界线越来越模糊,政治决策者与银行家的观点和目标愈来愈接近,怎能不令人担忧?高盛是多国金融“影子内阁”

  渗透欧洲政权,是高盛与美国政界紧密联系的延伸。从上个世纪60年代肯尼迪总统执政时期起,一个新的词汇悄然兴起,那就是“华府-华尔街复合体”。这个词被人们用来形容华盛顿高官们与华尔街投资银行家之间频繁地互换角色:华尔街出身的人士走上从政之路,也有许多高官弃政从商进入华尔街成为投资银行家。华尔街与华盛顿之间的人事交流“旋转门”从此越开越大,美国媒体也习惯把企业与政府之间角色的互换称为“旋转门”。

  高盛与政界的 “旋转门”机制运作得越来愈顺畅。如果说2001年之前,高盛与政界的高层轮动大多仅限于美国,此后的10年中,排在美国第58任财长亨利·福勒、第70任财长罗伯特·鲁宾以及第74任财长亨利·保尔森后面的名单正越拉越长,触角也伸到了希腊、意大利、英国和澳大利亚等国家,成为这些国家的金融“影子内阁”,并影响着各国的政府决策制定。

  据近期《新科学家》杂志称,位于苏黎世的瑞士联邦理工学院,分析了全部43060家跨国公司及将它们联系起来的股权所有关系,建立了一个模型,绘制出了全球经济体整体图景,他们得出的结论就是掌控世界的20家公司:金融占主导。综观历史,资本主义经历了三个大的发展阶段:从19世纪70年代自由竞争的资本主义阶段起,到19世纪70年代至20世纪40年代的垄断资本主义阶段,再从20世纪40年代至今,资本主义已经进入了金融资本主义阶段,全球正在建立起以金融资本游戏规则制定为主导的全球化体系。从经济的金融化再到金融的社会化,经济、政治、社会、财富分配都围绕着金融这个轴心而转动。

  金融资本不断地制造危机,并可以通过制造危机而获取高额利润。然而,一旦金融资本与权力资本结盟,那么它就不是“大而不能倒”,而是“大而倒不了”,这是比危机本身更可怕的事情。
通过向IMF注资1500亿美元去拯救希腊的中国SBZF,这国卖的让俺傻眼了!

凡有良心的国人请与我一同祝愿吧,

衷心祝愿壶瘟早日罪该万死!万死,万万死!

我提供进入市场的“洞察”​​的问题是,我期待更深层次的,它得到较深的。

现在我看不到对方。它的只是阴暗的无处不在。

不仅没有上周的标准普尔500指数下跌56.98点(4.7%),但它在1160爆发的重要支撑,报收于1158.67日(星期五)。基准也打破了日(星期一)50日均线回。

累积广度(推进问题减去下降的问题)已重挫。

第三季度GDP增长在美国和发言滑滑走,向下修正至2%,从此前公布的(作出这样的估计)2.5%。

在全球范围内,向下的压力是显而易见的,在国内生产总值增长的预期,主权信用,市场和股票市场方面。

事实上,我无法找到任何股本基准上涨,上周在世界的任何地方。这是因为没有。

有什么是上周很多 - 有什么将继续更大量 - 越来越多的担心,欧盟是即将成为脱胶。欧元区已经被关押连同无非创可贴,并希望更多,但越来越那些创可贴脱落。

轻微削减有时最深。

当任何评级机构开始切割一个国家的信誉,这是从来没有的情况下,一些合理的期限内,并没有任何进一步的降级,主体的收视率奇迹般地跳回到自诩的地位。

它只是不会发生。通常它的其他方式。

所以这是上周匈牙利,穆迪的垃圾,这得到了削减和葡萄牙,惠誉以垃圾得到削减。这些评级削减切深。

但我更关心,你应该也被削减约比利时S&P一个档次比利时和法国加强与更超过1000亿美元的承诺,最近宣布破产的法国 - 比利时贷款人达亚承担的负债。

没有人知道什么将贷款人的实际救助需要,这将是其贷款组合的问题,以及如何执行或不。现在被调低与比利时,逆止器落在法国,这是本身面临威胁由惠誉降级。

法国的信誉三A削减下来债权人的集体刺会发出不寒而栗到达亚,更不用说欧洲的其他银行。

支持者(与信誉的欧洲国家),这意味着他们的AAA评级,信用的前提是整个构思,利用欧洲金融稳定基金,基本上把它的火箭筒权力的东西像一万亿美元,或两个。

,越来越多的这个救助现金的承诺(这是学分的形式主要是)由欧元区成员国设施的想法 - 其中大部分将结束起来想逃基金,因为将是该基金的基金自己的受助人 - 正的开始,好了,欧洲的救援点是荒谬的。

从崇高到愚蠢的,当有人提出,本基金与那些在需要它的帮助的人提供信贷资金和不足,将进一步通过借贷杠杆 - (抵押债务义务“的CDO”型结构..说它响亮,反对其信用借款。

你要了解这些结构是如何“分档”和瓜分,和谁吃损失的第一,第二,依此类推,直到AAA档开始越来越命中,欣赏这种类型的债务车辆摆在首位的是多么脆弱。

它的所有有关分配的现金流量(好运气),给投资者一些不可信的评级机构的垂涎舒适(我的意思是“买”)三A评级。否则,谁买这种垃圾?

信贷评级下降的级联变化一直谈到的所有动态。如果法国被降级(以及它最终会)命中,德国人将主要是左手拿着的AAA袋。在欧洲其他AAA级信用太小,无法计数。

因此,欧元区的危机归结到德国,在最后的分析。

哦,万一你想知道为什么在世界各地的市场下跌,上周,你可以感谢德国人。

这不是他们没有做错什么,那就是他们没有做任何事情,混合来自全国的每一个角落发送信号,他们将会或不会做保存欧元区以外。

面对他们所有的日耳曼人惊愕,他们有一点点多亿欧元的10年外滩提供。没有人来了。好,而不是“没有人”,只是它的拍卖中,有35%的人认为没有投标人。这意味着他们不能出售他们向投资者支付的利率,其堤岸。

这是不坏 - 超越“可怕”的全球信贷市场,与欧洲开始。

当然,在德国人踏着自己的鼓手,罗马被焚烧。

意大利为期两年的纸拍卖为7.7%,其五年的纸张7.8%; 10年期出售7.3%;和$ 10.67六个月的纸张亿元,是唯一能够放在与投资者谁将会接受无所不及,6.5%的6个月的风险。

就在几个星期前,意大利的6个月的纸收益率为3.5%。

你害怕还吗?你开始看到我如何看东西吗?

我的预测是不祥的昏暗。

我会继续努力为你一盏灯。
The problem I have with providing "insight" into the market is that the deeper I look, the darker it gets.

Right now I can't see through to the other side. It's just that murky everywhere.

Not only did the S&P 500 fall 56.98 points (or 4.7%) last week, but it broke important support at 1160, ending Friday at 1158.67. The benchmark also broke its 50-day moving average back on Monday.

Cumulative breadth (advancing issues minus declining issues) has been tanking.

And speaking of slip-sliding away, third-quarter GDP growth here in the U.S. was revised down to 2% from the previously reported (make that estimated) 2.5%. 

Downward pressure was evident across the globe, in terms of GDP growth expectations, sovereign creditworthiness, and stock markets.

In fact, I can't find any equity benchmark anywhere in the world that rose last week. That's because there wasn't one.

What there was a lot of last week - and what there will continue to be a lot more of - is mounting fear that the European Union is about to become unglued. The Eurozone is already being held together with nothing more than Band-Aids and hope, but increasingly those Band-Aids are falling off.

Slight cuts sometimes end up being the deepest.

When any ratings agency starts cutting a country's creditworthiness, it's never the case that, within some reasonable period, and without any further downgrading, the subject's ratings miraculously jump back up to vaunted status.

It just doesn't happen. It usually goes the other way.

So it was last week for Hungary, which got cut to junk by Moody's, and Portugal, which got cut to junk by Fitch. Those ratings cuts cut deep. 

But I was more concerned, and you should be too, about Belgium being cut a notch by S&P. Belgium and France just stepped up with a more than $100 billion commitment to assume the liabilities of the recently declared insolvent Franco-Belgian lender Dexia. 

No-one knows what the lender's real bailout needs will be; that's going to be a matter of its portfolio of loans and how they perform or don't. Now with Belgium being downgraded, the backstop falls more on France, which is itself facing a threatened downgrade by Fitch.

France's creditworthiness being cut from triple-A would send shivers down the collective spines of creditors to Dexia, not to mention the rest of Europe's banks. 

The whole idea of leveraging up the European Financial Stability Facility to essentially bring its bazooka power to something like a trillion dollars, or two, is predicated on the creditworthiness of the backers (the European nations with creditworthiness), meaning their AAA ratings.

Increasingly, the idea of this bailout facility having cash commitments (which are mostly in the form of credits) from Eurozone members - most of whom will end up bailing out of the fund because they will be recipients of the Facility's funds themselves - being the starting point for Europe's rescue is, well, ridiculous. 

It went from sublime to stupid when it was proposed that this inadequate fund, with money and credit supplied by those who were in need of its help, would further be leveraged by borrowing - (in a collateralized debt obligation "CDO" type structure... yes, those same CDOs in the same "special purpose vehicle" (SPV) structures that sank so many giant banks in the credit crisis, and are still stinking up balance sheets and off-balance sheet folders hidden in locked drawers) - let me say it louder, by BORROWING against their creditworthiness. 

You have to understand how these structures are "tranched" and divided up, and who eats losses first, second, and so on, until the AAA tranche starts getting hit, to appreciate how fragile this type of debt vehicle is in the first place.

It's all about allocating cash flow (good luck with that) and giving investors comfort with some untrustworthy rating agency's coveted (I mean "bought") triple-A rating. Otherwise, who will buy this junk?

The cascade of credit downgrades changes all the dynamics of what has been talked about. If France gets hit with a downgrade (and it eventually will), the Germans will essentially be left holding the AAA bag. The other AAA credits in Europe are too small to count.

So, the Eurozone crisis comes down to the Germans, in the final analysis.

Oh, and in case you were wondering why markets around the world fell last week, you can thank the Germans. 

It's not that they did anything wrong; it's that they didn't do anything, other than send mixed signals from every corner of the country about what they would or would not do to save the Eurozone.

Amidst all their Teutonic consternation, they had a little multi-billion euro 10-year bund offering. And nobody came. Well, not "nobody;" it's just that 35% of the auction saw no bidders. That means they couldn't sell their bunds at the interest rates they were offering to pay investors.

That's not bad - that's beyond "scary" for global credit markets, starting with Europe.

Of course, while the Germans were marching to their own drummers, Rome was burning.

Italian two-year paper was auctioned off at 7.7%; its five-year paper went for 7.8%; 10-year paper sold at 7.3%; and $10.67 billion of six-month paper was only able to be placed with investors who would accept nothing less that 6.5% for their six months of risk.

Just a few weeks ago, Italy's six-month paper was yielding 3.5%.

Are you getting scared yet? Are you starting to see how I see things? 

My forecast is for ominous darkening.

I'll keep a light on for you.

魔鬼在细节 - 尤其是当有

已经提出一项计划,要求私人银行“自愿”交换3000亿美元(210亿欧元)新的债务目前希腊债务的希腊发行。银行被要求采取50%的扣减。这意味着他们被拖欠的债务将被削减了一半。相反希腊由于300亿美元,该国将欠其债权人$ 150亿美元(105亿欧元)。

这里的两个紧迫的问题是:
多少银行将自愿执行交换希腊的义务?
他们怎样堵塞其一级资本中的漏洞,当他们写下$ 150亿美元的损失?
截至目前,没有第一个问题的答案。这仍有待观察,有多少银行愿意吃希腊的坏烹饪。早在7月份,银行被要求自愿采取对希腊控股21%的扣减。实际上,他们没有做。

唯一的不同,今次是,如果银行为新的债券,新债券交换的旧债券“可能”有一定的损失准备金,将提供一些保护,如果希腊默认。

然而,即使这是一个冒险的命题,因为目前有没有一些地方的首次亏损拨备。事实上,甚至没有一个损失准备金将如何支持或将支付的损失高达的解释。

此外,首次亏损的规定仅涉及谁得到支付时,在默认的情况下。他们已与银行采取的损失,如果新发行的债券市场价格下跌无关。尤其令人不安现在,由于会计规则要求银行不仅显示未变现亏损,但补充资本金,以抵消这些损失,以及。

而这仅仅是第一个问题。

二是为了对希腊潜在保证新债券的某些部分,它是将需要至少达430亿美元(30亿欧元)。

所以,这里将得到这笔钱吗?那么,该计划意味着国际货币基金(IMF)。

在这一点上,重要的是要了解希腊的500亿美元(350亿欧元)的未偿债务,3000亿美元,是举行私人银行和机构持有其余的$ 200亿美元(140亿欧元)。这些机构,包括国际货币基金组织,是不是自愿采取其持有的任何损失。他们想拿回他们欠的100%。所以,他们都愿意到小马反对的损失,银行可以看到更多的逆止钱,只要在最后冲洗他们取回他们已经借出的一切。

因此,其中的$ 150亿美元的资本,需要的托银行,理应采取扣减50%将来自可能是国际货币基金组织与新的资金,由中国添加到库房。这是唯一的方法,中国有可能参加这个盲人的虚张声势的高风险的游戏。
The Devil's In the Details - Especially When There Are None

What has been proposed is a plan to ask private banks to "voluntarily" exchange some $300 billion (210 billion euros) of current Greek debt for new debt to be issued by Greece. The banks are being asked to take a 50% haircut. That means the debts they were owed will be cut in half. Instead of Greece owing $300 billion, the country will owe its creditors $150 billion (105 billion euros).

The two immediate issues here are: 
  1. How many banks will voluntarily execute an exchange of Greece's obligations?
  2. How are they going to plug holes in their Tier 1 capital when they write down $150 billion of losses?
As of now, there is no answer to the first question. It remains to be seen how many banks will willingly eat Greece's bad cooking. Back in July, banks were asked to voluntarily take a 21% haircut on their Greek holdings. Practically none of them did. 

The only thing that's different this time around is that if the banks exchange old bonds for new bonds, the new bonds "may" have some first-loss provisions that would offer some protection if Greece defaults. 

Yet, even that is a dicey proposition, since there currently is no number in place for first-loss provision. In fact, there isn't even an explanation of how the first-loss provisions would be backstopped or who would pay up on the losses.

Also, first-loss provisions relate solely to who gets paid when in the case of a default. They have nothing to do with banks taking losses if the market price of newly issued bonds tumbles. That's especially troubling now, since accounting rules require banks to not only show unrealized losses, but to add capital to offset those losses, as well.

And that's just the first problem.

The second is that in order for Greece to potentially guarantee some portion of its new bonds, it's going to need at least $43 billion (30 billion euros). 

So where will it get that money? Well, the plan implies the International Monetary Fund (IMF).

At this point it's important to understand that of Greece's $500 billion (350 billion euros) of outstanding debt, $300 billion is held by private banks and the remaining $200 billion (140 billion euros) is held by institutions. These institutions, which include the IMF, are NOT volunteering to take any losses on their holdings. They want to get back 100% of what they're owed. So, they are willing to pony up more backstop money against the losses banks could see, as long as in the final rinse they get back everything they've lent. 

So where's the $150 billion in capital that's needed to shore up the banks that are supposedly going to take 50% haircuts going to come from? Probably the IMF, with new money added to its coffers by the Chinese. And that's the only way the Chinese are likely to participate in this high-stakes game of blind man's bluff.

中国ZF已经向IMF贡献了1500亿。这笔钱将被用于救欧元和希腊。卖国政府已经在曲线卖国了!!!

So Portugal is maybe 18 months behind Greece in the cycle of bailout leading to imposed austerity of big tax raises, spending cuts, wage cuts, and a little bit of structural reform. Which creates as in Greece a contraction in economic activity, falling GDP, falling tax receipts leading to an increase in the size of the nations debt, the very opposite of what the policy is intended for.

Economic pointers for the coming year suggest a contraction of 5.7% in Portugal's GDP, this will likely be revised downwards numerous times during the year. One sector of the Portuguese economy that is growing is the black economy,2.5% last year, with people being forced to operate outside the tax system in order to survive. Portuguese bonds touched 14% last week, with plenty of scope to go higher.

Where Portugal looks worse than Greece is in the personal debt of its citizens total Portuguese debt amounts to 479% of GDP (compared with 296% for Greece). That comes to 783 billion euros, compared with 703 billion euros for Greece. They have roughly similar size populations, but with Portugal having lower wages and a smaller GDP, a personal debt bubble of this size is a ticking time bomb.

Europe’s banks are massively exposed with a $244 billion exposure to Portuguese debt, compared to just $204 billion to Greece.

All this means is that as soon as the Guardian is finished running live blogs on Greece debt talks we will be straight onto Portuguese debt talks. The crisis is perpetual and all consuming, with every bailout and new creation of debt to finance debt the core of the EZ is pulled closer into the black hole that the crisis has become.

It is interesting to see the solutions rising from the neo-liberal camp now, with talk of Europe needing to become more competitive on global markets, the need to compete with the manufacturing power of the far east. How does a European worker compete with a Chinese worker? A European worker can compete with a Chinese worker if he does not have the right to organise in a trade union, if he has no national minimum wage, if he has no right to paid overtime or a day off on Sunday, if he has no employment rights whatsoever then the European economy can hope to become competitive again. Dark satanic mills coming to a town near you very soon.


因此,落后希腊18个月,葡萄牙可能的周期导致,大税实行紧缩的加薪,削减开支,削减工资,和体制改革的点点救助。创建在希腊经济活动收缩,国内生产总值下降,导致增加国家的债务规模,政策的目的是什么对面税收下降。

为来年的经济指针显示,在葡萄牙的国内生产总值的5.7%的收缩,这将有可能下调年内无数次。葡萄牙经济正在增长的部门之一是黑色经济,去年2.5%,与人被迫税制外,为了生存。葡萄牙债券上周触及14%,用大量的范围去更高。

葡萄牙看起来比希腊在其公民的个人债务总额占国内生产总值的479%(希腊为296%相比,)葡萄牙的债务数额。这涉及到783亿欧元,比703亿欧元希腊。他们大致类似规模的人群,但与葡萄牙的低工资和一个较小的国内生产总值,这种规模的个人债务泡沫是一颗定时炸弹。

欧洲银行大量暴露与接触到葡萄牙的债务为2,440亿元,比仅达204亿美元到希腊。

所有这一切意味着,一旦完成运行居住在希腊的债务谈判博客作为监护人,我们将直接到葡萄牙的债务谈判。危机是永久和所有的消费,每一个救助和创造新的债务融资债务,的EZ的核心是拉进黑洞接近,已成为危机。

有趣的是,看到上升的新自由主义阵营的解决方案现在欧洲需要在全球市场上,竞争的需要与远东的制造能力变得更加具有竞争力的谈话,。欧洲工人如何与中国工人竞争?欧洲工人可以与中国工人竞争,如果他没有在工会组织的权利,如果他有没有国家的最低工资,如果他没有支付加班或周日休息一天的权利,如果他没有就业的权利,任何欧洲经济可以希望再次成为具有竞争力。黑暗的撒旦厂来您附近的小镇很快。

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3 回复 oneweek 2011-10-31 01:02
天天看卖国贼们拿天文数字的人民利益到处送, 自己的人民却是生活得狗都不如。
泰国军人杀了中国平民, 政府还惦记着出钱给他们抗洪。 你说除了共产党的政府,什么样的政府能这样呀?
3 回复 Brigade 2011-10-31 01:39
这些卖国贼不以为自己卖国,还以为自己有长远眼光,为中国干了好事。想想希腊一
个退休懒汉,需要多少中国农民来养活吧。想想欧美联合起来一起赖帐怎么办吧,
想想中国10年前买的美国国债按石油价格换算,贬值贬了多少吧。
4 回复 weileguojia 2011-10-31 01:45
oneweek: 天天看卖国贼们拿天文数字的人民利益到处送, 自己的人民却是生活得狗都不如。
泰国军人杀了中国平民, 政府还惦记着出钱给他们抗洪。 你说除了共产党的政府,什 ...
满清恐怕也不过如此!一个罪孽的ZF!
2 回复 weileguojia 2011-10-31 01:51
Brigade: 这些卖国贼不以为自己卖国,还以为自己有长远眼光,为中国干了好事。想想希腊一
个退休懒汉,需要多少中国农民来养活吧。想想欧美联合起来一起赖帐怎么办吧,
想 ...
不是汉奸不能当大官,邓秃驴以后的铁律。
中银,证监,甚至叫兽都被人搞定了,个个为了自己的美元账户说话。

中南海的几头猪玩权分权争权是好手,
而对国际经济本来就是五谜三道,再被CIA收买的人一薰,
早已不知爹娘是谁了。作孽!
2 回复 awang9988 2011-10-31 08:13
壶主席在尿壶里在下一盘很大的棋。 你的,明白
3 回复 dwqdaniel 2011-10-31 11:55
如今的中国政府就是一不折不扣的卖国政府!
3 回复 weileguojia 2011-10-31 20:43
dwqdaniel: 如今的中国政府就是一不折不扣的卖国政府!
且已做到了前无古人的地步
4 回复 weileguojia 2011-10-31 20:44
awang9988: 壶主席在尿壶里在下一盘很大的棋。 你的,明白
你幽默中说出了一个真理!
2 回复 叶哥 2011-11-1 00:03
同意。
1。这个是无底洞。放再多钱都没用。光希腊就5000亿,还有葡萄园,西班牙,意大利等,救无可救。
2。放钱进去,给了谁?无非是那些赌博赌输了的西方大银行。
3。如果中国政府是出于稳定市场的意愿,十分天真。
4。钱丢了,谁负责?
3 回复 weileguojia 2011-11-1 01:54
叶哥: 同意。
1。这个是无底洞。放再多钱都没用。光希腊就5000亿,还有葡萄园,西班牙,意大利等,救无可救。
2。放钱进去,给了谁?无非是那些赌博赌输了的西方大银行 ...
唯一的ECB印钞法案被德国否决。注定这种努力只是一场秀。今天的股事已经说明问题了:仔细一看,还是个不能实现的东西!
4 回复 看得开 2011-11-1 04:14
中国政府欧盟这样的依存关系称为“毒贩的贸易模式” 意即毒枭贩毒给毒虫赚取金钱,毒虫的金钱用磬之后,毒枭为让其卖买关系可以维持,借贷金钱给毒虫,让毒虫可以继续... ... 毒枭贩毒所为只有一个目的:维护延续做大佬利益。为了这个核心目的,欧洲债务可以出中国钱买, 国可以出卖、p民可以杀。其一切都是围绕这一核心而制定。
3 回复 weileguojia 2011-11-1 05:18
看得开: 中国政府欧盟这样的依存关系称为“毒贩的贸易模式” 意即毒枭贩毒给毒虫赚取金钱,毒虫的金钱用磬之后,毒枭为让其卖买关系可以维持,借贷金钱给毒虫,让毒虫可以 ...
骗子骑在毒虫的头上,根本成了一个无底洞。
2 回复 borninheaven 2011-11-8 10:29
前不久还有好多人叫嚣要抛美债去买欧债!
4 回复 weileguojia 2011-11-9 12:28
borninheaven: 前不久还有好多人叫嚣要抛美债去买欧债!
买了美斋买欧债,就是不能用于发展自己, 一定要把外储贬值到底。

G20上只有中国积极表态愿意通过IMF出资。不知道老百姓平均财富在世界上占老几?卖国不分老几。

皇帝不急太监急,可惜SBZF不能印国际货币,还是个太监。
2 回复 borninheaven 2011-11-9 15:12
weileguojia: 买了美斋买欧债,就是不能用于发展自己, 一定要把外储贬值到底。

G20上只有中国积极表态愿意通过IMF出资。不知道老百姓平均财富在世界上占老几?卖国不分老几。 ...
当今版的宁赠洋人, 不予家奴! 可家奴还吵闹着是赠这洋人, 还是赠那洋人
3 回复 weileguojia 2011-11-10 14:17
borninheaven: 当今版的宁赠洋人, 不予家奴! 可家奴还吵闹着是赠这洋人, 还是赠那洋人
谢谢你的精辟总结。

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