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秋高气爽广州游(三)入住星河湾大酒店

作者:格物便是致知  于 2011-10-29 18:44 发表于 最热闹的华人社交网络--贝壳村

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1 回复 格物便是致知 2011-10-30 16:21
美国鲁汉: 好像是03年在广州看的星河湾的房子,1万元人民币/平米,小区布局合理,建筑和装潢质量很好,室内配备的用具均是名牌,用现在的眼光是物超所值。
去年在上海,看到 ...
其实广州星河湾小区整体不错,价格也合理,随着交通网络完善,升值是预料之中........

上海楼盘则炒味浓厚
1 回复 kissmyass 2011-10-30 16:25
Picard: If I were you I would book Chinese-run hotels. Otherwise how could you write a comparison report?

I stayed in Chinese-run hotels while travel ...
Chinese run 5 star hotels are just like Chinese build bullet-train. Looks fancy but the service sucks.  
I had just finished attending 2nd phase Canton fair and stayed in both Chinese run 5 star and a HK run 5 star hotel. the difference is obvious. I would rather pay 200 more to stay in the HK run hotel then the 5 star Chinese Run hotel. Here is my report if you like:1) The Chinese run hotel front desk staff treat me like air. There is no smiling, no hello, not even asking me for any demand I have ( I always trying to stay in non-smooking room), but as soon as there is a white face showed up, that staff's face turned to smile.  How do u feel if u r a Chinese?   2) the internet in my room is broken, they should check the wire connection but they did not. Until the time I asked them, they said they have wire problem and send a person to my room and stayed for half hour to work on the wall jacket/wire while I am in the room.  3) When I was trying to get a cab at the door, the doorman  recommended me a private service rather then a taxi. When I insisted, both the doorman and hotel entrance staff ignored my request, so I have to walk 50 yards to the street to stop a taxi myself. Per the taxi driver, none of the taxi driver would like to stop by waiting at the hotel door, because that Chinese run hotel staff ask them for "tips", all the private driver at the  hotel door pays the doorman for getting customer.
My conclusion, the hotel service has a long way to go to meet the international standard.
1 回复 格物便是致知 2011-10-30 16:26
Picard: If I were you I would book Chinese-run hotels. Otherwise how could you write a comparison report?

I stayed in Chinese-run hotels while travel ...
对了,住星河湾期间,每天免费自助早餐,价值人民币128.00X2人/房,其品种质量,西方酒店是无法比的
1 回复 wo? 2011-10-30 17:17
格物便是致知: 呵呵,我想一次装修不能一劳永逸吧,收费相对西方国家的五星酒店不算贵了
从电脑上看,灯饰蛮好看的。我刚从手机上看的,不明显。

的确,价格上来说,比外国便宜,但是单就一次性装修,不说一劳永逸,也得管个10儿8年的吧?每天都有固定客人进来的话,灯饰钱早就回收回来了吧?当然还有其它的设备。国内的5星级一般的个人还是没有那么多收入进去的,除非公司,招待,有钱的。。。国外的5星级就是一般人也能有很多可进,内部级别又不一样,这点儿觉得很大不同。。。
1 回复 hr8888hr 2011-10-30 20:14
格物便是致知: 现在回中国,有点象上世纪九十年代初到las vegas旅游的感觉,但现在看问题理性一点了
这叫后发展优势
回复 JEFFSON 2011-10-30 20:57
比起开放改革前东北京饭店----简直豪华到极点了。
中国真跃进了。
1 回复 JEFFSON 2011-10-30 21:17
其实,帆船酒店也是不欧不阿拉伯,欧州酒店也常被批不法不英,不意大利也不丹麦------
等等没甚么了不起。让他们尽情表态,有些是忠肯的建议,有些是无聊的漫骂,还有些
是他本身水平与见识或爱好不同。
回复 或者 2011-10-30 23:34
这里的访客大部分心理不健康,只要是说国内好的,他们必然说不好,这叫做逢中必反。

楼主不必理会。
1 回复 hog4oc 2011-10-31 00:03
hr8888hr: 运气轮流转,现在到大陆. 大陆就算是小城市的很多新酒店都比纽约最高级的如什么the plaza, waldoef astoria hotel  设备要豪华得多,服务要好得多.
It spells as "Waldorf" not "Waldoef" - my question to you is did you stay in any Waldorf Astoria hotel before, if you don't have a chance to stay outside China, go to Shanghai Waldorf Astoria, check it out and look around, and order some service from them, see how people treat you.

If you don't know how to enjoy good products and service and if you haven't tasted the best service, you don't know what's the "best" - just like most of Chinese are.
回复 hog4oc 2011-10-31 00:36
Hi "Picard"

I do travel a lot - if you look my profile under www.tripadvisor.com (BTW - it is a good information website for hotel info), I stayed quite a lots of Chinese run hotels before the western hotels start popping up in China. I don't like Chinese run hotel - 1. They spend most of budgets on useless things like entrance, lobby, nightclub ...like typical Chinese city projects. I found most of those hotels lack the details like room design, bed mattress quality, bed sheets and towels in bathroom...

To be honest I don't like those so call "free" breakfast, look at those people eating there, sucking food make big noise, talk loud, pile their dish full like there's no food tomorrow. I usually check in club level of hotels, i paid more and there are not many those rude Chinese there, so at least we can enjoy our "peace" time there.

As I said before if you have not experienced the good products and service, you don't know what is "best" there, and you pay for what you get.
1 回复 hog4oc 2011-10-31 00:40
Most American are polite and may not necessary to tell you the truth.

I'm on the other hand, very straight forward and open, I won't hold the truth.

go to www.tripadvisor.com and search my profile "hog4oc", you can see how I rate all the hotels I've stayed.
回复 qxw66 2011-10-31 00:48
格物便是致知: 又来高考?老了,考不起了
我是99%!
1 回复 sdwddnh 2011-10-31 01:50
格物便是致知: 喝雪碧,芬达就叫俗,喝什么才叫雅呢?
纯果汁,或高质量的矿泉水都可以啊。如果要用现成的饮料,也要用符合5星店水准的吧。出门小卖部都一样质量的东西,他们放5星店里难道就没感觉有问题?
1 回复 hr8888hr 2011-10-31 03:51
hog4oc: It spells as "Waldorf" not "Waldoef" - my question to you is did you stay in any Waldorf Astoria hotel before, if you don' ...
yeah, it's typo, thank you!

上面我讲的酒店是硬件设备,大陆现在不少新酒店硬件比美国的要好,这也是为什么很多大陆客来美旅游感到困惑的原因.

至于你说的服务问题, 我不时到纽约的waldorf astoria hotel帮我的客人chekc in(out)及联系处理相关事宜, 那些doorman和staff在态度上我不觉得其有什么过人之处.我不知道有上海的店,但我去大陆,坐飞机,住酒店,吃饭,亚洲国家的服务水平比美国的要好得多.

顺便多说一句, 你的说话粗鲁无礼,我想这就是否你自己要求的服务?
1 回复 美国鲁汉 2011-10-31 10:39
格物便是致知: 其实广州星河湾小区整体不错,价格也合理,随着交通网络完善,升值是预料之中........

上海楼盘则炒味浓厚
我也是这么认为的。
回复 格物便是致知 2011-10-31 18:13
kissmyass: Chinese run 5 star hotels are just like Chinese build bullet-train. Looks fancy but the service sucks.  
I had just finished attending 2nd phase Canto ...
广州总共只有六间五星酒店,你我际遇完全相反,什么原因呢?

你第一点受当时环境影响,如太忙或接待员正接待别人.....没法判断谁是谁非;第二点,房间网络出现问题,任何酒店都会出现,报告总台后,总要有足够时间让工作人员修理;第三,广州出租车一向供不应求,门童收小费之事无从考究,建议毎次叫车之前致电总台,让他们代叫......

我觉得,一个人要有棵平常心,放下有色眼镜,你会容易接受一些了,祝心情愉快!
1 回复 格物便是致知 2011-10-31 18:22
wo?: 从电脑上看,灯饰蛮好看的。我刚从手机上看的,不明显。

的确,价格上来说,比外国便宜,但是单就一次性装修,不说一劳永逸,也得管个10儿8年的吧?每天都有固定 ...
这酒店地点在星河湾屋村旁边,设有"屋主会",收入会费1万元,然后凭会员证住房及消费有折扣......所以平时也不淡.

现在不少平民也进星级酒店消费了
1 回复 格物便是致知 2011-10-31 18:23
hr8888hr: 这叫后发展优势
   正确
回复 格物便是致知 2011-10-31 18:24
JEFFSON: 其实,帆船酒店也是不欧不阿拉伯,欧州酒店也常被批不法不英,不意大利也不丹麦------
等等没甚么了不起。让他们尽情表态,有些是忠肯的建议,有些是无聊的漫骂, ...
帆船酒店也不错,在温哥华无人不识,成地标了
回复 格物便是致知 2011-10-31 18:27
或者: 这里的访客大部分心理不健康,只要是说国内好的,他们必然说不好,这叫做逢中必反。

楼主不必理会。
各人有表达意见的权利,不同意见沒有什么不好!

也阻止不了中国日益强大进步!多谢"或者"

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