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- 2 回复 鍋爐爺爺
- "幸福感是建立在别人痛苦的基础上的"
No idea what you're talking about. I love it there because of the life style, the opportunities, the excitement, the reasonably good public services, etc. There may be a small group of HK people who have this superiority complex with regard to the mainlanders, but they don't represent most of people there..... that's why you only saw EIGHT people singing insulting songs to the the mainland tourists..... of course that's eight too many.
- 2 回复 鍋爐爺爺
- "当然我们要站在香港同胞这边,理由很简单:与中国百分之五的富豪相比,你我的幸福感都没了"
You should not take side just because of your perceived relative level of wealth. One should always take local rules seriously, and one should always be reasonable and friendly toward outsiders.
- 1 回复 鍋爐爺爺
- Why do HKers deserve it? Are you sure people that really hate mainlanders? Do you know what ordinary people that have to deal with? Have you been there? Do you know anyone from there? Do you know its history?
世道变了: 我不站在香港人一边,我没有"同是天崖沦落人"感.我的幸福不是建立在与人攀比上的.香港人挨骂活该.
- 2 回复 鍋爐爺爺
- finally some words of wisdom!!! It is a minor incident that probably takes place in any major city in China everyday, yet instead of advocating mutual respect, some people like to make it an us versus them issue and start a fight.
四月愤青: 口水仗越打越没边儿了！
原本个别游客、个别港人在狭小地铁上的个别遭遇，居然被推演为大陆、香港的社会、人文群体冲突，而且双方众多人口诛笔伐、奋勇参战；现又 ...
- 1 回复 世道变了
- 你的这些提问应该问回你自己.
鍋爐爺爺: Why do HKers deserve it? Are you sure people that really hate mainlanders? Do you know what ordinary people that have to deal with? Have you been ther ...
有苦衷可以谈,可以商量,可以要求.但如果因为有苦衷就折腾人,挨骂就活该,不但没人同情你,还会因为你那个成为弱点的苦衷而被人当做打击的目标.
我昨天看了篇文章,说不管双方有什么理由,双方争执去折腾无辜的孩子就是事实.没有一个国家因为孩子在地铁里吃东西会被赶下车,但香港就可以做出这件事.当事人双方都没有想到过孩子,都要向孩子道歉.只有这篇文章讲得对.
管你有什么隐情呢?有隐情可以说可以谈可以协调,来横的谁怕谁啊?
- 2 回复 世道变了
- 本来香港人大陆人不都是中国人吗,只是地域不同而已,用不着这样你你我我太清楚.一张嘴还有牙齿咬到舌头的时候,嗑嗑碰碰当然免不了.非得趁机清算,那就清算呗.真当自己是根葱,也不问问别人愿拿你沾酱吗?
鍋爐爺爺: Why do HKers deserve it? Are you sure people that really hate mainlanders? Do you know what ordinary people that have to deal with? Have you been ther ...
- 1 回复 Chi202
- 我不明白在火车上其他人认同这样的动作, 这样做也影响他们了吗. 本来可以对小孩父母批评, 教育, 或罚款. 此事件反映本地人的问题比游客的问题严重得多.
世道变了: 对啊,挨骂不是自找吗,还搞抗议,抗议再骂.
- 1 回复 鍋爐爺爺
- I also think the man went too far, but that's not the point of discussion.
世道变了: 你的这些提问应该问回你自己.
有苦衷可以谈,可以商量,可以要求.但如果因为有苦衷就折腾人,挨骂就活该,不但没人同情你,还会因为你那个成为弱点的苦衷而被人当做打 ...
You said that before and here you said it again
"但香港就可以做出这件事"
The people involved are individuals, but you are treating the incident as HKers vs mainlanders...... kind of like those from shanghai vs those from Beijing, or other places. This is very divisive and silly and should be condemned.
- 1 回复 鍋爐爺爺
- "只是地域不同而已"
世道变了: 本来香港人大陆人不都是中国人吗,只是地域不同而已,用不着这样你你我我太清楚.一张嘴还有牙齿咬到舌头的时候,嗑嗑碰碰当然免不了.非得趁机清算,那就清算呗.真当自 ...
It is exactly this reason that yours (and Kong's) words are divisive.
- 2 回复 鍋爐爺爺
- The man could have handled it better (and he did express hi s regret later) but it is the rule of the locals and outsiders should respect that.
Chi202: 我不明白在火车上其他人认同这样的动作, 这样做也影响他们了吗. 本来可以对小孩父母批评, 教育, 或罚款. 此事件反映本地人的问题比游客的问题严重得多.
The locals may have felt stressed with various issues over the years. The latest ones: 1) the D&G store would not allow locals to take pictures (but mainlanders can); 2) pregnant women from mainland overwhelming the local hospital system.
- 1 回复 人权是非
- 我坚持(大部分)幸福感是比较出来的看法.但没有幸福感并不等于就要感到不幸.人还有一种心理,叫宽容.当我与我国内的旧同事朋友比较后,没了幸福感,但觉得他们也是人,也该有享受幸福的权利.今天也该轮到他们享受幸福感了.有了这种心,我就不会觉得失落感.
世道变了: 我不站在香港人一边,我没有"同是天崖沦落人"感.我的幸福不是建立在与人攀比上的.香港人挨骂活该.
我想你可能才出国没多久,你以前在国内所处的地方也没有太多的出国的人,所以不会感觉到那种幸福感.
- 1 回复 人权是非
- 我问大家选边只是开玩笑地.你应当从我的口气中看出,我那边都不支持.
四月愤青: 口水仗越打越没边儿了！
原本个别游客、个别港人在狭小地铁上的个别遭遇，居然被推演为大陆、香港的社会、人文群体冲突，而且双方众多人口诛笔伐、奋勇参战；现又 ...
难道真要同根相煎吗?
- 2 回复 人权是非
- 我只是描述了人类自身存在的一个现象而已.其实幸福感只是一方面.人还有一种心理,叫宽容心.有了宽容心,没有幸福感并不会马上就觉得不幸.大部分中国人(含香港人)都有宽容心的.不管大陆还是香港,大家都是同根生.事实表明,愿意同根相煎的人毕竟是少数.
鍋爐爺爺: "幸福感是建立在别人痛苦的基础上的"
No idea what you're talking about. I love it there because of the life style, the opportunities, the ...