奥巴马的医疗改革不会成功

作者:goodoctor  于 2010-3-21 15:40 发表于 最热闹的华人社交网络--贝壳村

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1 回复 RNSandi 2010-3-22 03:52
让我想起了FDR
2 回复 鍋爐爺爺 2010-3-22 05:11
"过多的医疗诉讼和医疗赔偿才是美国医疗费用高涨的最重要的原因"
Could you please provide proof that malpractice lawsuit is the most important factor? I found it interesting you neglected to mention the high cost of doing insurance paperwork as an important factor.

"他的改革其实是鼓励美国人放弃对健康生活方式的追求,是鼓励美国人变的更懒惰"
Your assumption is that once given health insurance, those currently without would switch from a healthy lifestyle to one that is abusive of their bodies, could you provide data to support that?
The US healthcare system is the best in the world for those who can afford it, but that also came as the expense of neglecting the needs of millions. To me, that is immoral.
2 回复 鍋爐爺爺 2010-3-22 05:15
解滨: 同意你的观点! 美国民主党的所谓医改不过是把目前的危机延长几年而已,并不解决任何问题。 美国医疗体制的根本问题是成本居高不下,百姓根本无法负担如此庞大的
"美国医疗体制的根本问题是成本居高不下,百姓根本无法负担如此庞大的支出。
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I thought lower the cost is the whole point of the reform?
1 回复 xqw63 2010-3-22 06:36
同意,不会成功
1 回复 Giada 2010-3-22 08:24
政客吗就是这样,他竞选时做了保证,不表示一下不成。不成功就可以另说了。
1 回复 我看世界 2010-3-22 10:03
homepeace: 医疗改革,方向正确
同意。医改的方向是正确的,但奥氏的方法是会将问题越弄越糟。
2 回复 homepeace 2010-3-22 10:16
我看世界: 同意。医改的方向是正确的,但奥氏的方法是会将问题越弄越糟。
方法的缺点可以在以后改进。对于楼住的4个观点的批评:
1。医疗诉讼赔偿额度的问题,医改不医改都存在。
2。医改不会减少医生的收入。
3。医改也没有i鼓励美国人放弃对健康生活方式的追求。相反,医保机构为了降低成本,势必重视疾病的预防(现在可以把病人剔出)
4。美国为他国支付高额医疗费很不公平。应该共同分担。
1 回复 我看世界 2010-3-22 10:20
putongren10: 医疗改革 is a  must
brown is a big joke!!!
共和党已经把美国搞成第三世界了,
再让y 们乱搞,美国就是津巴布韦
现在就津巴布韦了。没看很多小学都只上4天学了。没钱啊!这个奥总统只顾花钱,没有想到怎样激励人们创业,激励行业复苏,激励解决就业问题。周五的劳工委员会报告,就业形势再度恶化。35个城市的失业率达到15%。这钱花没了,下一步就是战争了。抢劫全世界。
2 回复 xoyuanfen 2010-3-22 21:05
tanjiang10: 共和党不想搞医疗改革,这是人所共知的,
改总比不改要好。
不可能一次就改成功,但不改就肯定更麻烦
同意, 任何一件事都有利有弊, 希望改革往更好的方向走。
1 回复 xoyuanfen 2010-3-22 21:05
任何一件事都有利有弊, 好医生的观点也有道理。
1 回复 fishingperch 2010-3-22 22:22
homepeace: 方法的缺点可以在以后改进。对于楼住的4个观点的批评:
1。医疗诉讼赔偿额度的问题,医改不医改都存在。
2。医改不会减少医生的收入。
3。医改也没有i鼓励美国人
nice catch!
1 回复 homepeace 2010-3-23 00:32
fishingperch: nice catch!
Thank You!
2 回复 tanjiang10 2010-3-23 01:06
xoyuanfen: 同意, 任何一件事都有利有弊, 希望改革往更好的方向走。
改革派与保守派之争
1 回复 解滨 2010-3-23 01:34
鍋爐爺爺: "美国医疗体制的根本问题是成本居高不下,百姓根本无法负担如此庞大的支出。
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I thought lower the cost is the whole point of the reform?
No.  The main purpose of the healthcare reform is to expand coverage - insure the 32 million uninsured poor people.   Lowering the cost is just a lie.  When a doctor prescribes a flu patient with 200 different kind of lab tests,   the cost is out of control.  However, the doctor must do so in order to avoid medical malpractice law suits.  This in one of the major reasons of high medical costs (defensive medicine).   The so called "healthcare reform bill" does not address this issue at all.
2 回复 bestwishes 2010-3-23 08:25
light12: 保险公司不能因为病人病史拒保,一般人保费要上涨许多?
那么,你认为保险公司应该不保身有病史的病人?
要是如此,医疗保险的作用就以经失去一大半.
1 回复 light12 2010-3-23 08:29
bestwishes: 那么,你认为保险公司应该不保身有病史的病人?
要是如此,医疗保险的作用就以经失去一大半.
我没有认为。我讲的是保费要上涨
1 回复 bestwishes 2010-3-23 08:57
The main problems of American medical healthcare are: First, American physicians' charge are too much. We know, their incomes are the highest in the world. Second, Hospitalization charge also too much. Patients, or even the insurance groups cannot afford to pay such expense. Third, Medicines are too costly. Fourth, medical Insurance company's premiums are too high. There are still many others.
Anyway, American health care system has gone down to an irretreivable situation that needs a total renovation.  Unfortunately, American politics, together with the interest groups block the way for the sake of selfishness and greediness.
Frankly speaking, for the existing situations of American healthcare, any reforms is futile, because it is too late and too much involvement.
It needs an overall revolution!
1 回复 鍋爐爺爺 2010-3-23 09:19
解滨: No.  The main purpose of the healthcare reform is to expand coverage - insure the 32 million uninsured poor people.   Lowering the cost is just a lie
Expanding coverage is the short term goal, reining in cost (or at least slowing growth of cost) is long term.
I don't doubt malpractice lawsuits are major problems and I think there needs to be some kind of reform on that. However, there is no evidence that this is THE most important factor of high healthcare cost
1 回复 自由之灵 2010-3-23 19:06
我所有的医生朋友和在药厂工作的朋友都反对这个医改。
2 回复 老牛嘎嘎 2010-3-25 07:58
tanjiang10: 共和党不想搞医疗改革,这是人所共知的,
改总比不改要好。
不可能一次就改成功,但不改就肯定更麻烦
不能说“改总比不改要好”,如果越改越坏为什么还要改哪?
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